6-chords where are you?

I haven’t been able to find the A6 chord and then I thought it was a bug and I tried to see if there is even C6 etc. Not found in the whole program or I haven’t been able to find it. Or is this under a different name? However, it is a very commonly used chord.

the same A6 chord can be found under the name Amajadd13. Really confusing expression.

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One of the issues I have found with Scaler is that sometimes I am looking for a chord name and can’t find it. However, I have learned that the chords are often in Scaler, but with a different name because the chord in Scaler is enharmonic (i.e uses the same notes) with the chord that I am looking for.

I have found that the CHORD page is useful as it has a search box where you can enter the chord name:

You can then try out the suggestions.

Also, if you know the notes of the chord, you can addnotes to, remove notes from, or change the pitch of notes in a chord by clicking on the keyboard at ethe top of the page.

I always get confused by the naming, but the ambiguity isn’t unique to Scaler.

F#min7 might be viewed as an inversion of A6 (same 4 notes), and one chord reference I have suggest that ‘naming is dependent on the context’ whatever that means. The 13th is an octave above the 6th obviously. ,

My guitar chords program tells me A6 is A #C E #F, but that A maj add 13 is given as
A #C E #G B #F, so this disagrees with Scaler, although this contains the A6 notes.
So dunno, but I share the confusion.

I’m sure the Jazz folk or classical musicians could weigh in here…

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Yup, it is confuising, but Amaj add 13 is the same chord as A6, except I think that strictly the F# should be an octave higher! (add 13 to the root - the 13 being the interval between the notes), but if it sounds right…

As an exercise I have tried to identify all the A13 chords in Scaler using the CHORD page (I started with a simple Amaj as a reference)

Note that all these A13 and Amaj13 chords are not the same: this is the midi captured from this pattern
A13.mid (287 Bytes)

Could somone with a better understanding of theory explain this to me, please?

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as a guitarist, the A6 chord needs to be taken with four notes … many even wider chords are forced to be played differently than on the piano. e.g., A13. when playing the piano, your fingers are enough for the notes but not on the guitar, of course. So maybe I think the A6 is the only right way for guitarists and the notation way.

Of course, the A13 may have been voiced like that for guitarists (I’m a pianist?), and it is an A6 anyway,

If the note is functioning as a true 13th in a chord it usually includes or implies the 7th of the chord whereas when it functions as a 6th chord the 7th is often omitted. A 13th Chords and a 6ths chord share most of the same notes. The difference is, as Ray Charles would say, “how does it sound, baby.” :slight_smile:

Scaler does often use synonymous names for chords and at times a 6th is labeled a 13th, but, in general, Scaler handles enharmonics well. It can be confusing at first, but I’ve gotten used to how things work and adapted accordingly.

I think it’s best, as many have said, to think of chords as “sounds.” Scaler is packed with interesting sounds. After working with it for months now I still see there’s much more to look at. It all depends on what you hear.

I do not agree. An A6 chord should be A C# F#.
Scaler is my preferred tool, above all others, but this does not do it well.
An A13 chord is not like an A6, sorry. To make it a 6 chord, you have to drop the 5, and in A13 you still have the E
From experience, I suggest that when you want to put in an A6, you write F#m/A. Sounds like an A6
However, Scaler should be able to write A6 just fine, without having to resort to these inversions from the relative minor. I write it as a request
It is as simple as substituting the 5th for the 6th:
A C# E ------------ A C# F#