A Scaler 2 or maybe 3? Wish List

Brilliant and thanks for sharing, I look forward to watching this and Negative Harmony is on our list for a mod preset, just some challenges we need to overcome which a UX rethink will help us achieve!

I think your feature requests as you indicated are based on wanting to use Scaler 2 as a standalone and having it perform as a DAW. Everyone creates their own unique workflows and once a workflow is established, we all like to repeat the process. Perhaps you need to explore how to use Scaler 2 with a better DAW selection. I use Presonus Studio One Pro 5 and it works great integrating with Scalar 2. There are so many advanced creative options that can be used in various workflows, but I would never want Scalar to slowly try and integrate to Advanced DAW features.

Using a DAW with Scaler 2 sooner than later will always be superior in having more powerful customized workflow process with better advanced features. Integrating with a DAW now, will advance you faster into a more optimized and more powerful workflow.

My workflow integrating Scalar 2 in my DAW with Melodyne Studio, Serato Sample, Impact 2, and Atom gives me a fast and creative workflow that a Scaler 2 standalone or Scalar 2 DAW could never come close to. It’s all about creating a workflow with your selected DAW.

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I think your feature requests as you indicated are based on wanting to use Scaler 2 as a standalone and having it perform as a DAW. Everyone creates their own unique workflows and once a workflow is established, we all like to repeat the process. Perhaps you need to explore how to use Scaler 2 with a better DAW selection. I use Presonus Studio One Pro 5 and it works great integrating with Scalar 2. There are so many advanced creative options that can be used in various workflows, but I would never want Scalar to slowly try and integrate to Advanced DAW features.

Using a DAW with Scaler 2 sooner than later will always be superior in having more powerful customized workflow process with better advanced features. Integrating with a DAW now, will advance you faster into a more optimized and more powerful workflow.

My workflow integrating Scalar 2 in my DAW with Melodyne Studio, Serato Sample, Impact 2, and Atom gives me a fast and creative workflow that a Scaler 2 standalone or Scalar 2 DAW could never come close to. It’s all about creating a workflow with your selected DAW.

You can use Scaler as a standalone very easily using the free Tone2 Nanohost: NanoHost freeware - minimalist VST host

That is what I do in Reaper

You are missing “us mousists”…
:rofl:

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To be able to update inside Scaler would be great. Stand alone would be fantastic. With wishes, I would love to see classical dance genres such as polka, mariachi, tango, country swing, be bop, 60’s -70’s freestyle, 80’s - 90’s line dancing, plus midi for drums and percussion rhythms. As a wish fulfilled, this would be very useful to songwriters and scoring for media projects. I love Scaler and its journey forward so far. To all involved with its conception, creation, and development; Thank you!

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Hi @Beelmon
have you checked these?

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Hi
My wish is

New genre Chord Sets: NewAge/Relax music

MuchLove
Peet R

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Strange, I feel this is there already, and is the prevailing style :astonished:

Maybe I’m wrong indeed, considering new age/relax music something that is totally another thing, but I composed a dozen of vibes that seem to be

I’ll upload some on SoundCloud and let you know, so you can tell me what style really is

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BTW, I always believed in that music chords are irrelevant, but exotic instrument textures and the absence of solos are decisive … :thinking:

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Nice, Thank you. I would love to hear it

Will this new genre be add to Scaler later on? I would love to see that feature.

Thank you
PR

Hi
I am very new to music scene. When requesting a new Genre is that mean including Chords, Scales ?

Thank you
PR

I hope to remember to do it tomorrow
I completely forgot to upload something
:grin:

I think anyway that many other forumians here do music of that kind

Listen this for now

Then let me know if you like to see 1 or 2 workflows

I’d definitely use Scaler as a standalone - I appreciate other platforms are available but the convenience factor would take away one more barrier.

There has been much discussion on the board about future directions for Scaler, and views seem to me to fall into main categories, namely increasing ‘depth’ and increasing ‘breadth’. As well as requirements for additional function, many requests also centre around what might be called ‘workflow’ i.e. easier and more efficient operation of existing function.
Some requests, like ‘Standalone scaler’ are probably relatively tractable (several other companies offer just this), but others, at the extreme end of the ‘breadth’ route, seek to move to a full blown DAW, synth and sample engine.

I am of the (personal) view that theses ideas are perfectly valid, but they are surely at the level of overall corporate strategy (“what business are we in?”) as much as simply broadening the functional spectrum.

FWIW, my perspective on these things is that the decision driver has to be “what will make money for the Scaler owners?” That may seem odd, but unless any developments have an economic return, sooner or later bankruptcy beckons. The better car Davide drives, the better Scaler will be, because it means they have the R+D monies.
These considerations are all beyond my paygrade, as they say, but think of a DAW with a range of the sort of functions which have been floated here from time to time. Then think of Ableton; bottom line is they employ 350 people, which I suspect is somewhat more than the Scaler team could field right now.

To quote Jimmy Cliff, that’s a “Hard Road to Travel”

There is, IMHO, an analog (or analogue ?? @Bernd :slightly_smiling_face:) in the evolution of business software over the years. Packaged products tended to evolve in a monolithic format and have a huge range of business functionality (more was better) but the reality is that complexity (in the widest sense) in software grows exponentially, with function, and that direction was unsustainable.

Distributed computing, Object Orientation and the use of standards based interchanges ushered in a new age of interoperability and with it the capability to build largely seamless arrays of functions which have the virtual coherence that the old monoliths aspired to.

My own take therefore (entirely personal and driven by my own workflow) on breadth vs depth is to opt for more depth, and find ways to make the interoperability with other ‘breadth’ functions as painless, invisible and efficient as possible rather than trying to be another Ableton. My 2 tuppence worth, as a (geriatric) Brit would say.

Please don’t burn me … it’s just my view.

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Love these wordings
:grinning:

I agree - the idea of a Scaler DAW doesn’t really play to its strengths. There’s no point trying to make a VST that does everything. I don’t use any VIs as standalones but I would with Scaler because it is a very good sketch pad for musical ideas, and therefore accessing it quickly would make it more useful to me.

And I might be wrong, but I think it might be a relatively simple job to take a VST/AU and make it a standalone app. And doing that might also be part of making an iOS app which would open up another revenue stream. But all of that’s speculation on my part and I have no idea how much resource is available to do the work (edit: or how much work would be involved). I can only say that there is an appetite among some people to have a standalone Scaler. There are plenty of other things that would probably be more pressing though.