Forgive me if I might have asked this before… but I am interested in figuring out (or feature requesting?) that these options available in section B within a Scaler instance where I already chose a scale…
…are also available for pass through chords, that are fed from a master Scaler. So for example, if I pass through (via MIDI chaining across plugins) a simple C minor chord (Voicing 1), that I can use that secondary Scaler instance, that is being fed this chord, to now interpret it in a different voicing, or make a 7th or 9th chord out of it etc.
Is this feasible?
I’m a little unclear here @Bernd What would be the difference to dragging it to section C, then editing for a suggestion or even hitting suggest to get different voicing/extensions?
The difference is one of workflow friction…that would require a lot of editing and lead to static configuration that would have to be manually changed.
My approach is daisy-chaining multiple Scaler instances, with a master Scaler providing the core scales or chord progressions, and then subsequent (dependent) Scalers re-interpreting these chords, while staying in harmony.
So the key difference is that as I change the chords/Progressions in the master scaler, I expect the downstream (dependent) Scalers to automatically adapt to these chords they get fed. If I were to edit in each downstream Scaler the section C chords, that would require a lot of editing overhead, and not lend itself to a more more performance style playing. I also didn’t think the Scaler sync feature would address this, since it still requires another manual (not MIDI automatable) step.
Unless I misunderstood your suggestion?
Hey I think I got you. The only live ‘force’ mode that Scaler would do is when Keys Lock, Performances etc are on. So the only changing of a chord you could do in your method is playing a voicing and having the second scaler adapt that voicing to a keys lock or performance setting. Not reinterpreting it in a ‘extended’ way which I think is what you are after. Hope it helps even though I don’t think it does!
Thanks @davide , I will have to try that and play around with those options a bit.
I think what I am after is pretty straight forward, and does not even require any scale recognition let alone performances. All I am looking for is for a given input chord to get a different voicing, regardless of what scales that chord might be part of. It is no different than having a chord in section B (loaded from the Scale selection), calling it up there under a different Voicing setting. Not sure if this would be called “transpose”?
Example: input chord is Cmin (C2, D2#, F2) and transposed output could be C1, D2#, F2, C3).
Now that I am describing it at that level of detail, I think I might have just realized that there might be a Bitwig NoteFX plugin to do something like that…will get back on that later, if it works.
A ha. I get it, like a live transposer. Scaler can detect live chords and apply performances etc so actually what you are suggesting is a great idea and Scaler already has that capapbility. I guess you would either select a profile of which one could be random. That would allow limited players like us to play simple triads and get some nice extensions. @Tristan Could you please add this to our dev board and let’s discuss some ideas for it…
Are you thinking of Pitch 12? ‘if this note than transpose by X’
if its MIDI, then MIDIOX and associated tools could be a potential solution.
I looked some time ago at this, but it was 32 bit only and was up to Vista. I just checked again and the web site hasn’t changed - last news was 2011.