PS no idea if the Scaler sync works or not, I am working on getting more outputs = bigger juicier chords although I have restricted musical theory knowledge.
update: It is looking good for all 16 midi channels. Musicians with 2 good hands, large keyboards and good theory could use that maybe. 8xStereo + 8xmono
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So does Scaler live inside Element so not directly under Logic control?
What does this give you Unify doesn’t (except being cheaper!)
One thing about Logic, IIRC each channel can only run on one core, so splitting instruments out is preferable to lumping them all on one channel somehow
Yes I can’t get Logic to accept the individual outputs from a midi splitter, works with other software. I had some similar Issues with Arturia pigments (using the Pigments sequencers for other things) and succeeded in doing that with Elements and Unify. Advantage using Elements is definitely the audio outputs, downside everything runs on one thread. 16 separate midi channels with Space designer was full load on one of eight.
Unify spreads the load far better, each new midi channel gets a new thread, downside only stereo out, If you are a big fan of BBCSO Discover John (Plugin Guru) and Geoff Stradling’s preset bank is something else. of course it costs. What I heard from my system today makes the 2.7 Scaler multi voice out worthwhile with the Discover software.
you can demo this.
Thanks. All very interesting and I’m a dabbler! I might try setting up a Scaler follower farm and give each of those an instrument on a midi channel and see if it works. If not I’ll be spending more time with Omnisphere. Tried Kontakt, easy enough to set up but I’m not a big fan of being inside Kontakt to add effects / mix…
I can’t complain (but do!) — it’s just a hobby
See what you mean about price, add in Unify and I’ll be saving my Black Friday shillings for something else!
Hi, feel the same about Kontakt doesn’t do it for me, Omnisphere may be the deal, I don’t have it and don’t want to go there. There are in the meantime other DAW s out there that handle midi a lot better than Logic. I only have that and Reason which is a completely different ball game, I won’t be getting a new DAW either. Making do with what I have which to be honest is far too much. Black Friday hmmm …its kind of planned.
Got it to work in Kontakt with Audio Imperia’s Areia library. The trouble is that you need to edit the chords. So that chord notes will fall within the range of each instrument. I feel this is something that needs to be done for any authentic library…
Welcome to the forum @omar17166 You can always use Voice Grouping profiles (top right) for this, that’s what the ranges (c2-b3 etc) are intended for.
Thanks Davide. Yes it helps as a starting point… Some chords still have to be manually edited though to get some member notes within an instrument range!
Hi Davide,
Any solution to my original post?
Regards
nope
as explained above by e.g.Jamieh and others
the BBC SO is not multi-timbral so you have to drive each instrument with a different Scaler instance
yes
Actually what I said is that each MIDI channel from Scaler needs routed to it’s own instance of BBCSO.
SO Channel 1 is 1 instance, Channel 2 is a 2nd instance, etc.
ahem… different channels, and why?
if multiple Scalers drive multiple BBCSO instances, why using different channels?
I am using channel 1 for any BBCSO instance with no problem
I think to have got so far that nevertheless the MIDI channels you route, Ableton will nicely kill your marvelous convoluted exotic routing sending all data in Channel 1
Aren’t we talking about multi channel output from Scaler? Multi channel to have the low to high performance note split to its own channel. If you want one scaler per instance of BBCSO then you just need channel one.
I’d go one instance of Scaler, multiple BBCSO’s each receiving different OR multiple channels from Scaler, with an arp/sequencer/note transpose/channel filter/etc. before each instance of BBCSO.
Simples.
sorry, I forgot there are 2 similar threads ongoing
to much pressure at work these days
Finally had time to test Element Scaler BBCSO 5xStereo. To make it work on my system I had to remove IAC and connect MIDI directly to Scaler. Then it worked fine. Unfortunately there is no control over Expression and Dynamics.
I have DiscoverStation and CoreStation for Unify so that might be a useful solution. Have you tested multi-out with Unify and Scaler?
Oh yes that is so easy and by far the best, multi channel mixing in Unify is ? + horizontal and only stereo out, come on Shane get your act together 
. I have the Discover Station as well nothing more to be said about that. 
Not sure if you could use the orchestra patches with Scaler multi voice out though, there would be a lot going on.