Scaler 2 + Studio 1 v5 = muddy notes?

Scaler 2 v2.3.0 / Studio 1

W10 / i5 9600 / 16gb DDR 2400

1.) I have three perfectly functioning Scaler 2 tracks on my Studio 1 (v5) song.

2.) I want to add a fourth. Same input/output configuration. Track added.

3.) Write a progression - dynamic voicing, Andantino expression on Felt Piano.

4.) Plays and sounds nice in Scaler 2.

5.) When I drag the progression over, all the notes show up in the Studio 1 note editor. But when I run the track in Studio 1, and watch the notes in Scaler, it only plays the bass + sometimes high note of the phrase. Rumbly. Muddy. Scaler doesn’t actually PLAY the notes if triggered by Studio 1.

6.) Bind key is off on all sections.

7.) Remove track. Close Studio 1. Restart Studio 1. Maybe a cache issue (?) Re-add the track, and reconfigure the performance. Same result.

8.) Does this if I just drag the progression or midi-capture and drag. Doesn’t matter.

9.) If I copy the notes from the Scaler 2 track onto a Studio One instrument, it plays fine. The notes are getting printed in Studio 1, but they don’t actually play properly if triggered by Studio 1. Am I saying that right?

What am I doing wrong? Help, anyone?

Hi @DaveK58 and welcome to the forum :slight_smile:

If you drag your progression out to your DAW with any articulation/performance enabled, Scaler will drag the content already “performed”.

On top of disabling the BIND, make sure you also disable the performance modes you might have enabled. Otherwise, Scaler will try to reapply the expression pattern onto the performed notes.

Hi Ed, and thanks for the welcome.

Just so I’m clear. I can write the progression WITH the performance mode…but once it’s copied into my DAW, and I like it, I need to turn it OFF in Scaler before trying to play it back.

Si ???

Yes, exactly. If you drag the MIDI onto the Scaler track, you want Scaler to play it back without anything enabled.

Welcome Dave,

As usual, it seems @Ed1 nailed your issue, but your term “muddy” caught my attention so I thought I’d mention sample types and articulations and how much of a huge difference they can make when using various playback settings. If you are an experienced musician this is probably apparent, but if not (like me) it might be helpful as you explore the seemingly endless creative paths through Scaler.

One thing to also think about is how different instruments (samples) respond to different playback types & speeds. (Example: Ensemble Strings vs Staccato Strings) As you use different playback types (expressions or articulations) and/or crank the speed of playback w/in Scaler x0.5 - x2, certain instruments sound much better than others. In fact, for certain combinations of playback types, timings instruments, you can toggle Scaler’s PERFORM mode on and off for some really cool variations.

This becomes particularly interesting when you do what you did above and then capture the resulting midi as a derivative of the original. Some of these captures are junk, but for some types, they provide some great variations. Combine this with Studio One’s powerful midi editing features and you can quickly create really cool stuff.

Speaking of Studio One, try pumping Scaler into Impact…endless fun.

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Howdy T - thanks for the note and tips, and yes indeed, I’ve messed quite a bit with playback tempo and different instruments, using both Scaler instruments and S1 instruments (and sheesh, I’ve done ALOT with Ensemble/Matrix/Staccato strings in S1). In fact on this current piece, I took an arpeggiated line from Scaler, dropped it onto Grand piano and filled in 3rds and 5ths and additional bass notes, and created this wild piano piece that, honestly, I don’t think a single pianist could play. Funny, since I can’t play piano at all (I’m a guitar player, so I do know a little about harmony and progressions).

I’m just starting to noodle with Impact - most of my pieces (dimestore classical/synthy type stuff) don’t lend themselves well for drums.

But now that I’ve cracked this case (actually Ed cracked it), I feel like I can really explore Scaler. I’m pretty jazzed - this is a GREAT plugin.

Thanks again, cheers !!